Sunday, January 25, 2026

Bearded Nero and Hadrian

 

 


by

Damien F. Mackey

  

Augustus had established the pattern for what a Roman emperor looks like. Hadrian breaks the mould. But this is to deny that earlier emperors

had been represented bearded at least on their coinage.

Most extensive in this were Nero and Domitian”.

 

C. Vout

 

 

Introduction

 

Naturally, since I had, in my article:

 

Time to consider Hadrian, that ‘mirror-image’ of Antiochus Epiphanes, as also the census emperor Augustus

 

(6) Time to consider Hadrian, that 'mirror-image' of Antiochus Epiphanes, as also the census emperor Augustus

 

presented a sequence of emperors totally different from the conventional one given here by C. Vout, I must inevitably, therefore, disagree with the conclusions.

 

If, as suggested in my article, Augustus and Hadrian were one and the same emperor, the Census “Caesar Augustus” of Luke 2:1: “In those days Caesar Augustus issued a decree that a census should be taken of the entire Roman world” then – whether or not Augustus ‘established patterns’ ( and I am sure that he did) – his many beardless portraits are offset by his prominent beardedness as Hadrian.

 

While C. Vout will eventually in the (2002) article:

A REVISION OF HADRIAN’S PORTRAITURE from The Representation and Perception of Roman Imperial Power: Proceedings of the Third Workshop of the International Network Impact of Empire (Roman Empire, c. 200 B.C. - A.D. 476), Rome, March 20-23, 2002 on JSTOR

 

A REVISION OF HADRIAN'S PORTRAITURE

 

acknowledge that “Nero and Domitian” (conventionally before Hadrian) sported beards, strangely the author will insist that it was “Hadrian [who] breaks the [Augustan] mould”.

 

In my opinion, he didn’t – nor could he have if he were, in fact, Augustus.

 

The philhellenic Grecophile, Hadrianos Sebastos Olumpios (Sebastos is Greek for “Augustus”) – and we will meet “philhellenism” quite regularly in connection with Hadrian when we peruse C. Vout’s article – the “Greekling” (Graeculus) as, supposedly, he was known, was in fact a Seleucid Greek.

 

He was the tyrant king Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ so-called IV.

 

Here, now is C. Vout’s article with my comments added.

 

A REVISION OF HADRIAN'S PORTRAITURE By C. VOUT

 

“In the second century, Roman men did not wear beards; in second-century Greece, they did. Beards were worn by the Greek poets, philosophers, and statesmen of the past. Hadrian wore a beard in life and in his portraits because he wanted to be 'the Greeklin’.”

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: Hadrian exhibited Greek style because he was, in fact, a Greek.

 

C. Vout continues:

 

We all know what a Roman emperor looks like or rather we are familiar with imperial imagery. So were the ancients, until Hadrian rewrote the formula. The orthodoxy is that as the first bearded emperor and avid supporter of Greek culture, Hadrian changed the public face of Roman rule.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: “… Hadrian rewrote the formula”? But what about the Grecophilic Nero, who is supposed to have reigned before Hadrian?

Most intriguingly, Nero is highly comparable with Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’, who definitely was not a Roman. On this see my article:

 

Nero like an Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’

 

(10) Nero like an Antiochus 'Epiphanes'

 

C. Vout continues:

 

Where does this conception come from? In part, it comes from the ancient literature. Although fairly scanty and most of it posthumous (with the third or fourth-century Augustan History and third-century Cassius Dio providing the fullest picture), this literature bears witness to a man who hunts, writes poetry, takes a young Greek lover, Antinous, and is initiated into the Eleusinian Mysteries; in other words, in private, who lives like a Greek. It also claims that he was curious about other cultures, especially Egyptian (into which Antinous plugs perhaps as well as into classical), and that his favourite author was the Roman epic poet, Ennius.

….

But it is the Greek nature of the tradition that has captured the imagination. Or it is the novelty that a good emperor could be "so imbued in Greek studies that some called him ‘Graeculus’ ….

Sources of the same period see Nero and Domitian's Hellenic leanings as indicative of their tyranny. Hadrian somehow escapes similar venom to embody the success (even acme) of the Roman Empire. He is not a dilettante but an intellectual who harnesses the united power of Rome and Greece.

….

This turnaround in the meaning of philhellenism should not surprise us. In some ways, trying to trace the point at which Roman attitudes towards the Greeks and, rather differently, Greek culture, began to shift is subsidiary to this discussion. Unlike Nero and Domitian, Hadrian died popular, or at least it was in the interests of his successors to support him. ….

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: Hadrian, if he were Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ as I am claiming, died a most atrocious death. On this, see e.g. my article:

 

Horrible end of the emperor who abominated Jerusalem

 

(10) Horrible end of the emperor who abominated Jerusalem

 

C. Vout continues:

 

Roman authors show time and time again how a good emperor can be praised for the same qualities for which a bad emperor is damned. This said, however, Hadrian's philhellenism is further sanctioned by virtue of the fact that he turns it to public advantage. He devotes considerable resources into improving Greek centres such as Athens, Eleusis and Pergamum and encourages the Pan hellenion or league of 'Greek' cities so as to give them greater occasion to take responsibility for themselves.

….

C. P. Jones has recently challenged the standard line that Hadrian created the league in 131-l32 C.E., preferring instead to see its foundation as a Greek initiative …. There is evidence to argue that Hadrian's predecessors, Domitian and Trajan, invested as much (if not more) time and money into Eleusis, Cyrene and Pergamum, and that Athens is in all sorts of ways a special case. ….

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: Trajan, in my opinion, may not have been a ‘predecessor’. On this, see my article:

 

Hadrianus Traianus Caesar – Trajan transmutes to Hadrian

 

(10) Hadrianus Traianus Caesar – Trajan transmutes to Hadrian

 

He looks like Hadrian’s twin brother.

 

C. Vout continues:

 

…. But none of these objections (if that is what they are) slow the increasing trend to gloss the majority of Hadrian's actions and motivations as philhellenism (positive). Whereas in the past, scholars tended to be more cautious on this issue (Eugenie Strong, for example, saying that there was "little indication that Hadrian ever wished to be classed with the Greeks or to be looked upon as leader of any Hellenic revival") … today almost every initiative is assigned to this heading!

….

 

Philhellenism equates to a political stance, a successful PanheIlenic programme (so much so that Griffin is now reticent about awarding Nero the adjective 'philhellenic')."

Hadrian is credited with changing Roman imperium beyond recognition, making its fulcrum Greek culture.

              The strength of this assertion arouses suspicion. How different is Hadrian from the emperors before him (for example, Augustus is also supposed to have been initiated into the Eleusinian Mysteries)? …. Is everything he does 'philhellenism'?

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: Augustus, as Hadrian, does whatever Hadrian does: the Eleusinian Mysteries for instance.

 

C. Vout continues:

 

Regardless of what we want to call it, might his interest in Greek cities have not been 'simple' exigency or diplomacy? Even a fleeting glance at the period in which Hadrian was ruling [which is what?: Mackey] would suggest that the answer to this last question is confirmatory. The second century is renowned for being a time when Greek culture came together with (even assumed the lead over) Roman culture to become the most valued currency of elite interaction. Its language and heritage had a symbolic capital that outstripped the fact that relatively few of Rome's politicians were Greek. …. Seen from this angle, it matters less what Hadrian's motivations were or how different he was from Nero. The implication is that it is a different world and that Hadrian is only doing what a second-century emperor had to do. One wonders what comes first, the 'Second Sophistic', or the sources' emphasis on Hadrian's Hellenism. Or to put it another way, in order to be 'the man of the moment', did he have to be good at atticising Greek?

….

It is less easy to minimise the shock of Hadrian's physical appearance as made concrete in his coinage and statuary. Here, more than anywhere, scholars have noted a radical departure from the image of emperor as established by Augustus.

 

The fact that all of Hadrian's portraits (or at least all of those which have been identified as Hadrian) show him with a full beard and moustache, make his iconography unprecedented [sic] and the answer to what does a Roman [sic] emperor look like read differently. Recently, Cecile Evers has described it as "rompant diametralement avec les images de ses predecesseurs", whilst the starting and end point of Andrea Carandini's study was "una cesura profundo" between Trajan and Hadrian's reigns.

….

Are there other possible sources that Hadrian is mining? Or, as Smith prefers for his example, was his beard 'simply' a "fashion statement" rather than a deliberate quotation from the past? …. Susan Walker has recently refined her answer to this question to describe Hadrian's beard as "worn in the style of Pericles". …. Pericles' short curly beard and moustache put her on safer ground than those who have favoured philosophers. It is an identity that would complement Hadrian's interest in Athens, especially his enthusiasm to build. But the more one pursues the implications of this hypothesis, the more one is made to doubt it. If one reads Plutarch so as to get a sense of Pericles' reputation under Hadrian, one encounters an icon whose head is too long (hence the helmet) and whose overall appearance is reminiscent of the tyrant Pisistratus (although this is hardly surprising as he too was a prolific builder, inaugurator of the Temple of Olympian Zeus in Athens which Hadrian was to finish) …. These are hardly auspicious parallels.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: There may be very strong reasons why Hadrian has come down to us as a ‘second Pericles’, and like Peisistratus (for one, they all look alike):

 

Pericles thought to have preceded, by centuries, Hadrian, a ‘second Pericles’

 

(10) Pericles thought to have preceded, by centuries, Hadrian, a ‘second Pericles’

 

Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

(10) Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

Saturday, January 24, 2026

Caligula and Nero

 



by

 Damien F. Mackey

  

Despite the debate over the precise details of their reigns, there’s no denying

that Caligula and Nero left an indelible mark on Roman history and

popular imagination. Their names have become synonymous with

the worst excesses of power and the corrupting influence of absolute rule”.

 

History Tools


 

Having recently drawn some startling comparisons between:

 

Caligula and Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’

 

(2) Caligula and Antiochus 'Epiphanes'

 

and the Grecophilic:

 

Nero like an Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’

 

(2) Nero like an Antiochus 'Epiphanes'

 

the stage is now set, so to speak, to consider, together, Caligula and Nero.

 

History Tools has already taken that step in its 2024 article (I do not accept the AD dates given here):

The Tyrannical Reigns of Caligula and Nero: A Historian‘s Perspective - History Tools

 

The Tyrannical Reigns of Caligula and Nero:

A Historian’s Perspective

 

Introduction

 

The Roman emperors Caligula (r. 37-41 AD) and Nero (r. 54-68 AD) are two of the most notorious and reviled figures in ancient history. Both are remembered as cruel, depraved tyrants who terrorized their subjects and indulged their every perverse whim. But how much of their terrible reputations is fact, and how much is exaggeration or fabrication by hostile ancient historians? Let’s take a closer look at the lives and legacies of these infamous rulers.

 

The Rise and Fall of Caligula

 

Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus, better known by his childhood nickname Caligula ("little boot"), was born in 12 AD, the son of the renowned general Germanicus. After his father‘s suspicious death, Caligula lived in fear of his great-uncle, the Emperor Tiberius, who nevertheless named him as his heir. ….

 

When Tiberius died in 37 AD, the 24-year-old Caligula was proclaimed emperor by the Praetorian Guard.

 

His reign began promisingly, with public celebrations and generous bonuses for the military. …. But according to ancient historians like Suetonius and Cassius Dio, Caligula’s rule quickly devolved into displays of madness and excess.

 

Suetonius describes Caligula’s reign as "a monster," full of "cruelty, profligacy, and almost maniacal behavior." …. He accuses Caligula of horrific crimes and perversions, including:

 

  • Having incestuous relations with each of his three sisters ….
  • Prostituting his own sisters to other men ….
  • Gleefully watching executions over dinner ….
  • Forcing parents to attend the executions of their sons ….
  • Having men thrown into the arena to be eaten by wild animals ….
  • Wishing that "the Roman people had a single neck" so he could cut it ….

 

Caligula is also said to have squandered Rome’s treasury on lavish spectacles and his own luxurious lifestyle. Suetonius reports that he once built temporary floating bridges across the Bay of Naples just so he could ride his horse across in triumph. ….

 

Perhaps most bizarrely, Suetonius and Cassius Dio claim that Caligula planned to make his beloved horse Incitatus a consul, the highest political office in Rome. …. While likely exaggerated, the story underscores the emperor’s reputation for shocking, erratic behavior.

 

After just four years, Caligula’s turbulent reign came to an abrupt end in January 41 AD when he was brutally assassinated by his own Praetorian Guard. His murder marked the first time a Roman emperor had been killed by his own troops.

….

 

Nero’s Descent Into Tyranny

 

Born Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus in 37 AD, Nero became emperor in 54 AD at age 16 after the suspicious death of his stepfather Claudius, the successor of Caligula’s uncle Claudius. …. Nero’s mother Agrippina, who may have poisoned Claudius, dominated the early years of his reign.

 

At first, guided by his tutor Seneca the Younger and the Praetorian prefect Burrus, Nero was a relatively enlightened ruler. …. But in 59 AD, Nero had his mother murdered, a shocking act of matricide that began his descent into tyranny. ….

 

Ancient historians depict Nero as a depraved megalomaniac who brutally suppressed rivals and indulged his artistic pretensions at Rome’s expense. Suetonius and Tacitus, though prone to exaggeration and rumor, paint a picture of a ruler drunk on power. Crimes and excesses they attribute to Nero include:

 

  • Kicking his pregnant wife Poppaea to death ….
  • "Marrying" a male freedman in a public ceremony ….
  • Forcing the suicide of his former advisor Seneca ….
  • Castrating and "marrying" a young freedman who resembled his dead wife ….
  • Covering Christians in wild animal skins and setting dogs on them ….
  • Dipping Christians in oil and using them as human torches ….
  • Frequently performing in public as an actor and singer ….

 

One of the defining events of Nero’s reign was the Great Fire of Rome in 64 AD, which destroyed much of the city. Rumors abounded that Nero himself had started the fire as an excuse to rebuild Rome to his liking. Tacitus reports that Nero used the Christians as scapegoats, initiating the empire’s first persecution against them:

"Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace ….

 

Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as a nightly illumination, when daylight had expired." ….

 

In the fire’s aftermath, Nero built his lavish Domus Aurea (Golden House) palace complex, a sprawling estate in the heart of the city with artificial lakes, gardens, and a 120-foot-tall statue of himself. …. Such extravagant spending, coupled with military defeats in Parthia and Britain, led to growing opposition.

 

In 68 AD, faced with rebellions across the empire, the Senate declared Nero a public enemy and he committed suicide at age 30. ….

 

His death marked the end of the Julio-Claudian dynasty, ushering in a period of civil war known as the Year of the Four Emperors.

 

Separating Fact from Fiction

 

While there‘s little doubt that Caligula and Nero perpetrated shocking crimes and ruled as cruel tyrants, modern historians caution that many of the most salacious stories about them likely contain significant fabrications or exaggerations.

 

Ancient historians like Suetonius, Tacitus, and Cassius Dio wrote decades or even centuries after Caligula and Nero’s reigns, relying on secondhand accounts, rumors, and politically motivated sources. They also had their own biases, moral agendas, and literary-rhetorical aims that shaped their narratives. ….

 

For example, many outrageous stories about Caligula and Nero seem to conform to ancient stereotypes about "bad emperors" as sexually depraved, extravagantly wasteful, and sadistically cruel. …. Such lurid tales served to titillate readers and underscore the emperors’ unfitness to rule.

 

Additionally, after their deaths both Caligula and Nero were officially condemned by the Senate in the damnatio memoriae (condemnation of memory), leading to the destruction of their statues and images. …. This likely motivated the circulation of even more negative stories about them.

 

So while the core facts of their tyrannical reigns are not really in doubt, many of the most shocking anecdotes are probably at least exaggerated, if not invented entirely. As one historian puts it:

 

"The picture of Caligula that emerges from the pages of Suetonius and Dio is an incoherent one … the product of scandal, innuendo, and hostile gossip that have accumulated over time …The ‘real’ Caligula, if he ever existed, is probably lost to us forever, buried beneath an accretion of literary topoi and moralizing rhetoric." ….

 

Legacy and Impact

 

Despite the debate over the precise details of their reigns, there’s no denying that Caligula and Nero left an indelible mark on Roman history and popular imagination. Their names have become synonymous with the worst excesses of power and the corrupting influence of absolute rule.

 

The reigns of Caligula and Nero marked a turning point in the early Roman Empire, exposing the dangers of relying on dynastic succession and vesting total authority in often unstable individuals. …. Their outrageous behavior and cruelty undermined the legitimacy of the Julio-Claudian dynasty, setting the stage for its downfall.

 

In many ways, Caligula and Nero have become the quintessential examples of the decadent, perverted Roman tyrant in popular culture. They have been depicted numerous times in film, television, literature, and art as the ultimate villains and cautionary tales about unchecked power. ….

 

Thursday, January 22, 2026

Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ was the little horn of Daniel 7:8

 



 

by

Damien F. Mackey

 

 

“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn,

a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns

were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being 

and a mouth that spoke boastfully”.

Daniel 7:8

 

Introduction

 

Here, following up on a recent article of mine in which I considered the views of a Seventh-Day Adventist writer concerning the little horn of the prophecies of Daniel:

 

Daniel 7 and 8

 

 (4) Daniel 7 and Daniel 8

 

 

as expressed in his article, “Why Antiochus IV Is Not the Little Horn of Daniel 8”: http://1844madesimple.org/why-antiochus-iv-is-not-the-little-horn-of-daniel-8

I will now consider the views of another writer, an ex-Adventist this time, regarding the identification of Daniel’s little horn. And I shall be in agreement with him.

 

I refer to Winston McHarg  |  14 January 2018  | who will inform us at the beginning of his article:

Why the Little Horn of Daniel 8 Must Be Antiochus Epiphanes – Adventist Today

 

Why the Little Horn of Daniel 8 Must Be Antiochus Epiphanes

Commentary

  

In 1978 I made the most difficult decision I have ever had to make. In spite of my love for my church, my work, my family and friends, I felt compelled by conscience to withdraw from the ministry of the Seventh-day Adventist church. The main reason I took this traumatic, heart-wrenching step was that I had come to disbelieve my church’s fundamental doctrine of a pre-advent investigative judgment.

 

In the first case, the Seventh-Day Adventist writer, I went so far as to accept this conclusion of his: 

 

How much more evidence does one need?  The little horn power of Daniel 7 and the littler horn power of Daniel 8 are both the same entity …

 

About which I commented: “I think that this article has made an excellent case in favour of the truth at least of this last statement”.

 

But then I concluded by leaving the door open on his other view, his emphatic belief that Antiochus IV was not the little horn of Daniel, with this statement: “Regarding Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ himself, though, I intend to tackle that subject in my next article, on the little horn of Daniel 7:8”.

 

The present article will hopefully be the fulfilment of that.

 

Winston McHarg’s contrary view 

 

….

According to the traditional Adventist position the “cleansing of the sanctuary” of Daniel 8:14 is an investigative judgment of the professed people of God. A study of the context of this verse reveals that this unusual interpretation finds no support in this chapter.

 

The symbolism of Daniel 8 centers in the notorious little horn which is described as performing a number of horrific acts. Among other things he is said to take away the daily sacrifices, pollute the sanctuary and persecute the people of God. After witnessing these terrible events in vision Daniel hears two angelic beings speaking to each other. One asks the question, “For how long is the vision concerning the continual burnt offering, the transgressing that makes desolate, and the giving over of the sanctuary and the host to be trampled under foot?” (v. 13). In verse 14—the answer to this question—the other angel replies, “Unto 2300 days then shall the sanctuary be cleansed” (K.J.V.). It is clear, then, that the “cleansing of the sanctuary” must involve the destruction of the little horn and the restoration of the sanctuary. The Adventist interpretation totally ignores this context and switches to the theme of an investigation of the professed people of God. This exegesis fails to answer the question of verse 13 and is completely irrelevant to the context of the entire chapter. There is however a simple, straightforward and convincing alternative.

 

Modern Bible commentators are almost unanimous in seeing the Greek king, Antiochus IV Epiphanes, as the fulfillment of the little horn of Daniel, chapter 8.

 

Antiochus Epiphanes was an erratic megalomaniac who made it his express purpose to eliminate the religion of Jehovah from the face of the earth. The history of this evil madman is graphically outlined in the two intertestamental books of Maccabees, which describe a horrific period of desecration and bloodshed during the years 171-165 BC.

 

Damien Mackey’s comment: For my complete historical renovation of king Antiochus, including the dates, though, see e.g. my article:

 

Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

(5) Golden Age of Athens actually belongs to the Seleucid tyrants

 

Winston McHarg continues:

 

During this terrible period of approximately 2300 days, Antiochus attempted to impose Greek customs upon the Jewish people. Along with many other terrible outrages he banned the continual sacrifices, desecrated the temple by installing a pagan image, poured swine’s broth around the temple and tortured and murdered thousands who refused to abandon their faith. Never before had there been such a blatant, foul and arrogant attempt to totally wipe out the faith of Israel.

 

The well-known scholar, William Barclay, in his commentary on the book of Revelation, details some of the horror of this time:

 

“Eighty thousand Jews were either slaughtered or sold into slavery. To circumcise a child or to possess a copy of the Law was a crime punishable by death. History has seldom, or never, seen so deliberate attempt to wipe out the faith and religion of a whole people.

 

He desecrated the Temple. He erected an altar to Olympian Zeus in the Holy Place, and on it he sacrificed swine’s flesh; and he turned the rooms of the Temple into public brothels …

To the Jews Antiochus was the incarnation of all evil; he is the blasphemous little horn of Daniel; he is the nearest approach to Antichrist in human form.” ….

 

The tyrant’s reign of terror was brought to a totally unexpected end when the pious Judas Maccabaeus, and his sons, rallied the faithful, and incredibly routed the Greek army! It was three years to the day, after the installation of the pagan image, that the sanctuary was cleansed and rededicated.

 

This joyful event was henceforth remembered by the feast of Hanukkah, which was observed in the time of Christ (John 10:22) and continues to be celebrated by Jews today. This stirring story is about to be exploited by Hollywood. Mel Gibson is rumoured to be considering making a film recounting these incredible events.

 

To me, and to most other commentators, the fulfillment of the little horn of Daniel 8 in Antiochus Epiphanes is crystal clear. However, the Seventh-day Adventist church, from its very beginning, has vigorously disagreed with this interpretation. According to the official understanding of the church, the horn is a symbol of both the Roman Empire and the Roman church. This understanding is important to the Adventist church because it is foundational to their centre-piece doctrine of the investigative judgment—which the church believes is one of the special truths that God has commissioned it to proclaim to the world.

 

Without questioning the sincerity and earnestness of my many friends in Adventism, I believe there are many convincing reasons why the little horn of Daniel 8 must be Antiochus. Here are some of them:

 

1. The little horn of Daniel 8 is a Greek horn. Unlike the little horn of Daniel 7, which emerges from the Roman beast [sic], this horn is said to emerge from one of the four horns upon the Greek beast. …. This fact is so plain and transparent that one can only wonder why some have overlooked it.

2. One of the first things that the angelic interpretation says about the little horn is that he is “… a king of fierce countenance…” (v. 23). According to the traditional Adventist view the horn represents a kingdom, namely the Roman Empire. It is hard to see how a kingdom could have “a fierce countenance” and “understand dark sentences.” The angelic interpretation allows no misunderstanding.

3. This king emerges from one of the fourfold divisions of the Greek Empire. “Out of one of them came forth a little horn…” (v. 9). Antiochus emerged from the Seleucid horn which was a division of the Greek Empire. Rome did not; it emerged on the Italian peninsula to the west of the Greek Empire.

4. The horn would arise “in the latter time” of the fourfold division, which pictures well Antiochus’s emergence. The fourfold division of Greece had passed the peak of its power when he emerged, and this is evidenced by the humiliation he suffered at the hands of the Romans while on his way to invade Egypt.

5. The horn would attack the south and east and the pleasant land i.e. Palestine. Antiochus did exactly that. However, when Rome came to power, it expanded in all directions including west to Britain and north to the germanic tribes. This little horn is clearly not Rome.

6. The horn would be noted for his cunning and intrigue. He would “understand dark sentences” and “cause craft to prosper” (v.25). Antiochus was renowned for his craftiness and cunning; Rome more for her brute strength and power.

7. The horn would destroy the mighty and holy people. History reveals that tens of thousands perished as Antiochus attempted to force the Jews to deny their faith.

8. The horn would take away the daily sacrifices (v. 11). Antiochus put a stop to the sacrifices for a period of over 3 years.

9. Antiochus “cast down” the place of God’s sanctuary (v. 11) when he shut down its daily ministry and set up the abomination that caused horror, i.e. the image of Zeus Olympias, and slaughtered swine on the altar of burnt offering. The importance of the sanctuary service lay not so much in the building as in the daily sacrifices and offerings, and by taking these away Antiochus “brought low” (NIV) God’s dwelling place.

10. Antiochus continued for approximately (possibly precisely, it is impossible to determine) 2300 days (v. 14) i.e. from the first attacks upon the sanctuary to his death in 164 BC. One of the world’s leading conservative scholars stated, “In this year (i.e. 171BC) began the laying waste of the sanctuary. The termination would then be the death of Antiochus (164BC).” ….

 

There is no convincing fulfilment of the 2300 days in the history of the Roman Empire and only by a fine-spun linking of the Roman Empire with the Roman church, and a further fine-spun linking of Daniel 8 with Daniel 9 … can Seventh-day Adventists arrive at a closing date for the 2300 days.

 

….

11. In his desecration of the sanctuary and his persecution of true believers, Antiochus did “practice and prosper” and “was exceeding great” (v.9 & v. 12).

One of the major objections to Antiochus as the fulfillment of the prophecy is the fact that he was a relatively minor player on the stage of history. It is sometimes asserted he is not big enough to fulfill the prophecy. This objection fails to take into account the simple fact that this particular prophecy centers primarily on the fate of the people and religion of God. The great theme of this vision is an unprecedented and successful attack upon the saints and true worship. It is IN THIS SENSE that Antiochus practices and prospers and becomes exceeding great.

….

12. That Antiochus is the little horn of Daniel 8 is convincingly confirmed by a comparison with the final vision of chapter 11. This final vision covers much the same ground as chapter 8. Various Persian and Grecian kings, including Alexander the Great, are referred to, but all are dealt with briefly in just one or two verses. As the vision moves towards its climax, Antiochus is once again centre stage, and no less than fifteen full verses are devoted to him (see 11:21-35). Antiochus is clearly no minor player in this vision. ….

 

Summary

 

The vision of Daniel 8 is probably the clearest in the whole book hence the almost universal agreement by both conservative and liberal scholars on the meaning of the symbols. Almost all are agreed that in Antiochus Epiphanes we find a natural, straightforward and convincing fulfilment of the horn who desecrates the sanctuary.

In contrast to the above, the traditional Seventh-day Adventist position wrestles against the most obvious meaning of the passage. Its assertion that the Roman Empire emerges from one of the Greek horns fatally flaws this interpretation from the very beginning. If you take the wrong path at the commencement of your journey, you can expect to arrive in the wrong place. ….


Daniel 7 and Daniel 8

 


 

by

 Damien F. Mackey

 

A suggestion is made here that Daniel 7 and 8 may contain parallel information,

with the consequence that the one may be shedding helpful light upon the other.

 

 

Introduction

 

Seventh-day Adventist Church article, “Why Antiochus IV Is Not the Little Horn of Daniel 8”:

http://1844madesimple.org/why-antiochus-iv-is-not-the-little-horn-of-daniel-8

has seemingly managed to identify some enlightening parallels between these two chapters of the Book of Daniel – irrespective of whether or not the article has also arrived at the correct conclusion about Antiochus IV.

 

It begins with an overview of opinions on the matter:

 

Crucial to the interpretation of Daniel 8:9-14 is the identification of the little horn power, which dominates these verses. Attempting to identify this little horn, commentators have applied three different methods (preterist, futurist, and historicist) of prophetic interpretation to the texts.

 

Preterists teach that the majority Daniel’s prophecies have already been fulfilled and, therefore, have no present significance. They hold that the little horn rose from one of the divisions of Alexander’s empire; they specifically identify it with the reign of Antiochus IV Epiphanes (175-164 B.C.). 

 

Futurists follow this basic line of interpretation as well, though they see Antiochus as a type of an end-time antichrist appearing in the final years of earth’s history.

 

Historicists declare that the prophecies in Daniel portray an outline of human and ecclesiastical history from ancient Babylon down to the end of time, with the little horn power being identified as the Roman Empire, in both its pagan and papal stages.

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Now, skipping what immediately follows, we jump to what I would consider to be the core of the article (whilst not necessarily agreeing with the identity of the four beasts given below). For my preference on this much-debated subject, see e.g. my article:

 

Four Metal Kingdoms of Daniel 2

 

(4) Four Metal Kingdoms of Daniel 2

 

The Seventh-day Adventist article continues:

 

The best way to understand the prophecy is to study it in context of other chapters in Daniel that parallel it, particularly Daniel 7. By comparing these two chapters, we can learn not only which school of prophetic thought best explains the vision of Daniel 8, but we can see why the identification of the little horn as Antiochus Epiphanes simply isn’t tenable. 

 

Daniel 7

 

With the exception of some voices within the preterist camp, most conservative scholars depict the identity of the four beasts in Daniel 7 as follows:

 

(Lion) Babylon

(Bear)Media-Persia

(Leopard) Greece

(Beast with iron teeth) Rome

 

…. While acknowledging (as all the schools do) that the first beast is Babylon, the preterist interpretation identifies the second and third beast of Daniel 7 as Media and then Persia, with the fourth beast being Greece (which arises after Persia) and the little horn coming out of Greece as Antiochus Epiphanes. This argument, however, falls apart on numerous grounds, including the lack of historical data to warrant that separation of Media and Persia into two successive kingdoms. 

 

In contrast, support for the interpretation of Daniel 7 as being Babylon, Media-Persia, Greece, and Rome can be found in the interpretation of the ram in Daniel 8. Its two disproportionate horns are specifically identified as the kings of Media and Persia together (vs. 20), reflective of the duality found in the prophet’s view of the bear in Daniel 7, which was raised up one side (Daniel 7:5). Meanwhile, the three-directional nature of the ram’s conquests (Daniel 8:4) also parallels the three ribs depicted in the mouth of the bear (Daniel 7:5), since it expanded to the north (Lydia), to the west (Babylon), and to the south (Egypt), an accurate description of the Media-Persian expansion.

 

Thus, if in Daniel 7 Media-Persia is the second beast, and Greece the third ….

 

Damien Mackey’s Comment: This succession in Daniel 7, apparently finding its parallel confirmation in Daniel 8, makes a lot of sense to me – {which doesn’t guarantee its correctness of course}.

But then I find myself failing to feel fully confident about the next part of the article:

 

(Thus, if in Daniel 7 Media-Persia is the second beast, and Greece the third) then the nondescript beast, the fourth beast in the prophecy, must represent Rome, the great power that arose after Greece. Therefore, the little horn that came from this fourth beast cannot represent Antiochus IV, who arose prior to, and not after, Rome.

 

This is a too neat succession of kingdoms which is neither chronologically nor factually correct.

 

New World Encyclopedia tells correctly that Rome was already very well established at the time of Antiochus IV, and that Rome was in fact calling the shots (not necessarily my BC dates here):

http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Antiochus_IV_Epiphanes

 

Antiochus took power after the death of Seleucus Philopator. He had been hostage in Rome following the peace of Apamea in 188 B.C.E. but had recently been exchanged for the son and rightful heir of Seleucus IV, the later Demetrius I of Syria. Taking advantage of this situation, Antiochus was able to proclaim himself as co-regent with another of Seleucus' sons, the infant Antiochus, whose murder he orchestrated a few years later.

 

War with Egypt

 

Antiochus IV was ambitious and wanted to expand both his territory and influence. He was able to make some inroads into Egypt, ruled by the Ptolemies.

 

In 168 B.C.E. he almost succeeded in conquering Egypt but was prevented from doing so as a result of Roman intervention. The [Seleucids] generally continued Alexander's policy of cultural integration but Antiochus IV was more interested in Hellenizing his subjects. He was especially eager to Hellenize the Jews, who resisted the process and he started to use force to pursue this policy. His father had exempted the Jews from the Hellenizing policy. This led to the beginning of the Jewish revolt of the Maccabees.

His infant son, Antiochus V Eupator, succeeded him.

 

Because the guardians of Ptolemy VI of Egypt were demanding the return of Coele-Syria, in 170 B.C.E. Antiochus decided on a preemptive strike and invaded Egypt, conquering all but Alexandria. He then captured Ptolemy but agreed to let him continue as puppet king. This had the advantage of not alarming Rome. Alexandria thereupon chose Ptolemy's brother Ptolemy VIII (Ptolemy Euergetes) as King. In Antiochus' absence, the two brothers came to an agreement to rule jointly. Hence in 168 B.C.E. Antiochus again invaded and overran all Egypt but Alexandria while his fleet captured Cyprus. Near Alexandria a Roman envoy met him and told him that he must at once withdraw from Egypt and Cyprus. Antiochus said he would discuss it with his council, whereupon the envoy drew a line in the sand round him. Were he to step out of the circle, the envoy said, without having first undertaken to withdraw, he would be at war with Rome. Antiochus agreed to withdraw.

 

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I now return to the Seventh-day Adventist article, which - while it has now disqualified king Antiochus IV from being Daniel’s ‘little horn’ - provides a series of compelling parallels between the description of the horn in Daniel 7 and 8.

 

Whoever this may represent - and I myself strongly believe that it was Antiochus IV - the combination of descriptions in Daniel 7 and 8 ought greatly to enhance our efforts to arrive at an identification. 

 

Thus, if the little horn in Daniel 8 is an entity that came out of Rome, not Greece, what is its relationship to the little horn in Daniel 8? Could the little horn in Daniel 8 still be Antiochus Epiphanes, even though the little horn in Daniel 7 cannot? Though it’s certainly possible that it could be referring to two different powers, significant arguments exist in favor of identifying the little horns in these two chapters as the same historical entity.

 

1)    Both are identified with the same symbol: a horn

        7:8ff, Aramaic, qeren    8:9 ff, Hebrew qeren 

2)    Both are described as “little” at the outset.

        7:8, Aramaic, zerath    8:9. Hebrew, serath   

3)    Both are described as becoming “great” later on.

       7:20, Aramaic, rab     8:99ff, Hebrew, gadal

4)    Both are described as persecuting powers.

       7:21, 25          8:10, 24

5)    Both have the same target group as object of their persecution.

       7: 27 “people of the saints,             8: 24 “people of the saints”

       Aramaic, am quaddise             Hebrew, am qedosim Cf. vss. 21, 25                                                

6)  Both are described as self-exalting and blasphemous powers.

      7:8, 11, 20, 25    8:10-12, 25 

7)  Both are described as crafty and intelligent.

     7:8 “eyes of a man”     8:25 “cunning and deceit” 

8)  Both represent the final and greatest anti-God climax of their visions.

      7:8-9, 21-22, 25-26       8:12-14, 25 

9)   Both have aspects of their work delineated by prophetic time.

       7:25      8:13-14 

10)  The activities of both extend to the time of the end.

        7:26-26, cf. 12:7-9    8:17, 19 

11)   Both are to be supernaturally destroyed.

        7:11, 26    8:25

 

How much more evidence does one need?  The little horn power of Daniel 7 and the littler horn power of Daniel 8 are both the same entity …

[End of quote

 

I think that this article has made an excellent case in favour of the truth at least of this last statement.

 

Regarding Antiochus ‘Epiphanes’ himself, though, I intend to tackle that subject in my next article, on the little horn of Daniel 7:8.